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UpgradeJuly 20, 2026

629: Jony Ive Loves a Handle

1:49
mid-roll
Jason Snell, Myke Hurley
Relay
July 20, 2026
Host-read (by Jason Snell, Myke Hurley)Brand awarenessBaked-in adArtificial Intelligence
0:00 / 1:49
@ 51:43 in ep

Estimated current placement value

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~$450range $72$3,000

What a comparable one-episode placement on this show might cost today—not reported advertiser spend or a historical invoice.

How this estimate works

A broad audience range for the top 2,000 popularity tier is multiplied by public CPM benchmarks and a placement factor. Inputs for this read: 1:49 · Host-read (by Jason Snell, Myke Hurley) · mid-roll.

Model placement-value-v1-2026-08 · benchmark inputs as of 2026-08
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Transcript

This episode is brought to you by Decagon. The best customer experiences happen when customers feel like they're the only one, almost like they have their own concierge. But once more and more requests start to come in, a lot of companies turn to AI and lose that personal touch. But Decagon helps your support feel personal no matter how many requests you're getting. Decagon helps companies create personalized concierge-style customer experiences with AI agents across chat, email, voice, and SMS. They're available 24-7, feel natural to talk to, and can resolve customer requests on their own, so businesses can keep up with requests without losing the personal touch that's important. Decagon plugs directly into your existing systems so agents can get live quickly, and because workflows can be updated using natural language, teams can make changes themselves without long engineering cycles. This means less time spent managing workflows, more time focused on customers, and ROI in weeks. Once live, agents can pull up-to-date information, take actions on requests, and understand the context behind any conversation. Plus, Decagon gives your team full visibility into why agents make the decisions that they make and what's happening across every conversation so it's easier to spot trends and improve experiences over time. Decagon helps power millions of customer conversations every day for brands you know and love, including Avis, Affirm, Fanatics, and Aura. Are you ready to transform your customer support? Go to decagon.ai upgrade to get a personalized demo and see what Decagon can do for your team. Check out Decagon at decagon.ai upgrade. That is decagon.ai upgrade. Our thanks to Decagon for their support of this show and all of Relay.

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629: Jony Ive Loves a Handle
Hosts: Jason Snell, Myke Hurley
Publisher: Relay