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From open source hits to OpenAI (Changelog Interviews #682)

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Well, friends, I'm here with a good friend of mine, Michael Grinich, founder and CEO of WorkOS. Michael, auth for agents. I feel like this is burgeoning. It's it's kinda happening all of a sudden. What's the state of the world for auth for agents? Yeah. It feels like author agents is one of those things that, nobody knows what it means, but it's very provocative. Everybody wants to talk about it. Practically speaking, I think there's two things here. The first is when you say author agents, you're talking about how do I get the data into an agent that it needs to be able to do its job. And for that, we built something called Workwest pipes. It's actually more of an integrations product. It helps you take your agent and connect it to your customer's Google Drive and connect it to Salesforce and HubSpot and connect it to Slack and all this other stuff that they're gonna use and do it in a way that's safe and secure and managed. That's one type of auth for agents, kind of data access auth. The other type is actually authorization. It's like permissions for what the agent is going to go do. Because you connected to all these systems, but then you say, what capabilities does it actually have? How can I restrict the agent behavior so it doesn't go off the rails and go do a bunch of crazy stuff? That's a lot of stuff we're building today. We don't have a product announced yet for that, but we've been working on it. The third, I would say, is probably the identity layer for agents. How do I identify an agent by its name? You know, that's really coming from the enterprise identity systems that are out there. If you look at Microsoft and Microsoft's Entra agent ID, they're doing a lot of interesting work there. There's also expansions to OpenID Connect and SCIM for agents. We're building all of this into the WorkOS platform. So if you're looking for an identity stack that'll support agents, again, future proofing, WorkOS is a great place place to go. But it's changing really quickly. You know, none of us were talking about OpenClaw, you know, like weeks or months ago. And that's a new paradigm I think we're gonna see not just within consumer software, but in the in the enterprise too. So it's a it's an area of very, very rapid development. Well, it makes me think about agents versus people, not negatively, but this world where we'll have more agents than people. You know, today, if we have seven or 8,000,000,000 people on the planet, in the future, we're gonna have trillions of agents going off and doing things. And so the challenge around identity authentication for agents is actually significantly bigger than just how people interact. In the same way, like, you know, GitHub isn't gonna work super well for agent encoding because you'll have so much more code getting written. The same is true for identity and permission and logging systems when agents start doing stuff with it. So we're building for that future today. Alright, friends. The next best step is to do what I've done, which is use auth kits. Okay. That's how I authenticate my CLIs, my APIs, my applications, all that good stuff. Workos.com is where you go. Try it out today. A million users with auth kit for free. You can't beat that deal. It's it's literally free. Again, workos.com. Try it out today.

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