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The Ezra Klein ShowJune 30, 2026

Chris Rufo Thinks the Right Can Control This. I Don’t.

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June 30, 2026
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I'm Peter Baker. I'm chief White House correspondent for The New York Times. I cover the president of The United States, and I've covered every president since 1996. The pressure on an independent press today feels greater than at any time I've seen it in four decades as a journalist. All that pressure though is just a reminder of why journalism matters. Speaker 9: Our job is to bring home facts, help our readers understand what's happening regardless of what the consequences may be to us. And if they punish us, so be it. We will still go out there and report as honestly and aggressively and fairly and truthfully as we can. I mean, look, if the New York Times were not at the White House asking the hard questions, looking for stories behind the stories, trying to understand what's going on, it's possible these questions don't get asked. Independent reporting requires resources. Speaker 9: You can support it by subscribing to the New York Times at nytimes.com/subscribe.

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Episode

The Ezra Klein Show
Chris Rufo Thinks the Right Can Control This. I Don’t.
Host: Ezra Klein
Publisher: New York Times Opinion