Brave on "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

The Model Eats the Scaffolding: DeepMind's Logan Kilpatrick & Tulsee Doshi on 3.5 Flash, Omni & More

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Nathan Labenz, Erik Torenberg
Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz
May 20, 2026
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Transcript

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Episode

"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis
The Model Eats the Scaffolding: DeepMind's Logan Kilpatrick & Tulsee Doshi on 3.5 Flash, Omni & More
Hosts: Nathan Labenz, Erik Torenberg
Publisher: Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz